Episode 1: 
In this conversation, Sean Martin and Joel Surber interview Adam Barber, a probate lawyer, to discuss the basics of probate. They cover topics such as probate assets, non-probate assets, opening probate, changing title, will contests, and the importance of hiring a probate lawyer. Adam emphasizes the need for expertise in probate law and cautions against dabbling in this area without proper knowledge.

Episode 2: 
In this conversation, Adam Barber from Martin, Heller, Patent, and Shepherd provides insights on trusts and probate. He explains that a trust is a contract between a grantor and a trustee, where property is put into the trust and distributed according to the grantor's wishes. Trusts are not just for the wealthy, but can be useful for anyone with minor children, real property, or property in multiple states. It is important to fund the trust by changing beneficiary designations and property titles. A trust can help keep courts out of your business and avoid the lengthy probate process.

Keywords:
probate, probate assets, non-probate assets, opening probate, changing title, will contests, probate lawyer